LifeTime Health Care for the Head of Medicare and Medicaid and Not For You-Hypocrisy

Well, well, more hypocrisy for the regime of “Hope and Change.” We were told that there would not be any rationing, we were told that you can keep your health plan, yet, the actions of these people speak so much louder than words. This post belongs on this board, because these actions are going to affect each and everyone of us. Now, you are seeing what these people really believe, how they view your health care needs. It is easy for this to be dismissed by heallthy people, because it does not immediately affect them.

In special deal, charity gives rationing advocate Berwick health coverage for life
By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
07/14/10 7:57 AM EDT
Donald Berwick, recess-appointed by President Obama to head Medicare and Medicaid, is a well-known advocate of health care rationing and admirer of Britain’s National Health Service. Rising health costs and limited resources “require decisions about who will have access to care and the extent of their coverage,” Berwick wrote in 1999. Last year, he said, “The decision is not whether or not we will ration care – the decision is whether we will ration with our eyes open.” Of the NHS, Berwick says simply, “I love it,” adding that it is “one of the great human health care endeavors on earth.”

As it turns out, Berwick himself does not have to deal with the anxieties created by limited access to care and the extent of coverage. In a special benefit conferred on him by the board of directors of the Institute for Health Care Improvement, a nonprofit health care charitable organization he created and which he served as chief executive officer, Berwick and his wife will have health coverage “from retirement until death.”

The provision is deep inside a 2009 audit report on the nonprofit’s finances. On page 17 of that document, there is a paragraph headlined “Post Retirement Health Benefits”:

During fiscal year 2003, the Institute created a postretirement health benefit plan for its Chief Executive Officer (CEO). It provides the CEO and his spouse medical insurance from retirement until death. The present value of the estimated cost of this benefit is approximately $120,000, which is being accrued over the CEO’s estimated remaining service period. The amount expensed by the Institute for the years ended 2009 and 2008 related to this liability was approximately $12,000 and $17,000, respectively. At 2009 and 2008, approximately $84,000 and $72,000, respectively, was included in accounts payable and accrued expenses.

Berwick was the CEO in question; under the provision, he and his wife will be covered for the rest of their lives – a benefit that was on top of the $2.3 million in compensation the nonprofit gave Berwick in 2008, the $637,006 in compensation he received in 2007, and the $585,008 he received in 2006.

The Institute describes its work as an effort “to accelerate improvement [in health care] by building the will for change, cultivating promising concepts for improving patient care, and helping health care systems put those ideas into action.” It has about 110 employees and net assets of $49.5 million, according to its 2008 filing with the IRS. (2008 is the most recent year for which such filings are publicly available.) A 501©(3) tax-exempt organization, the Institute reported receiving $12.2 million in contributions and grants in '08, as well as $27.4 million in revenue from its various programs.

Sen. Charles Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, has been asking questions about the Institute’s finances. Specifically, Grassley wanted to know more about the millions of dollars in grants and contributions to the organization: where did that money come from? Given the zillions of dollars that changed hands during the debate over Obamacare, it was a reasonable question.

But it was a question the White House did not want to answer. Not long after Grassley inquired about the Institute’s donors, the White House decided to bypass Senate confirmation for Berwick. The president’s recess appointment means that Berwick will not have to answer Grassley’s, or anyone else’s, questions.

Now comes word that Berwick enjoys his nonprofit’s generosity in the form of health care coverage for life. That undoubtedly would also have been a topic of questioning had Berwick gone through the normal course of Senate confirmation. But the recess appointment avoided all that.

Berwick is a perfect person for this job. York is a partisan hack trying to gin up more faux outrage by the gullible.

http://www.billpeckham.com/from_the_sharp_end_of_the/2010/04/berwick-likely-to-hear-health-care-rationing-questions-from-republicans.html

[QUOTE=Bill Peckham;19908]Berwick is a perfect person for this job. York is a partisan hack trying to gin up more faux outrage by the gullible.

http://www.billpeckham.com/from_the_sharp_end_of_the/2010/04/berwick-likely-to-hear-health-care-rationing-questions-from-republicans.html[/QUOTE]

The gullible??? Hmmmm, partisan hacks??? Sir, your party is filled with partisan hacks. Many Americans are sick and tired of these individuals not minding their own business. If it is true, why in the world should Donald Berwick have unlimited health care while people on dialysis wait in a line? If ObamaCare is so wonderful, why does it take effect after the 2012 election, when Obama does not have to face the voters? Why did Obama appoint him, and not face the public? Obama seems to believe that he and administration, how dare we question them? Your party has started many, many loud and obnoxious confirmation hearings, you must not have been watching the television during the Reagan and Bush years. Do you remember any of the personal insults that were leveled against Republican nominees???

Senator Edward Kennedy – “Robert Bork’s America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens’ doors in midnight raids, children could not be taught about evolution.”

The facts are that in nine out of ten rulings from the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, where Bork sat on the Court, were upheld by Supreme Court Justice Lewis Powell. Now, let us look at what Judge Bork actually said:“Liberal, moderate, conservative shouldn’t apply to judging. The correct philosophy is to judge according to the intent of the legislature or the intent of the Constitution’s framers. Judges are overwhelmingly from a very narrow segment of society, and if they begin to read their own ideals into the law, then most of society isn’t represented.”

I believe that individuals and physicians should be making decisions about their health care treatments and you believe that the government should be making those decisions, it is just that simple. I believe in the American public and you have faith in the government. I have been in politics for years and I know of liberal smear tactics to people who do not agree with you. Treatment delayed by government bureaucrats is treatment denied. The other people might be afraid of your name calling, however, I am not. You can call me names all day, if that what suits you. However, I care about the people on the this board and I am going to call these people on their hypocrisy, each and every day. I want you to hear a member of your party from the Wall Street Journal:

The Democratic chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus, was taken aback at the end-around: “Senate confirmation of presidential appointees is an essential process prescribed by the Constitution that serves as a check on executive power.”- Max Baucus http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703792704575367020548324914.html?KEYWORDS=donald+berwick

I guess Max Baucus is gullible and a partisan hack? Let us hear the quotes of Donald Berwick in the Wall Street Journal: “I cannot believe that the individual health care consumer can enforce through choice the proper configurations of a system as massive and complex as health care. That is for leaders to do.”

“You cap your health care budget, and you make the political and economic choices you need to make to keep affordability within reach.”

“Please don’t put your faith in market forces. It’s a popular idea: that Adam Smith’s invisible hand would do a better job of designing care than leaders with plans can.”

“Indeed, the Holy Grail of universal coverage in the United States may remain out of reach unless, through rational collective action overriding some individual self-interest, we can reduce per capita costs.”

“It may therefore be necessary to set a legislative target for the growth of spending at 1.5 percentage points below currently projected increases and to grant the federal government the authority to reduce updates in Medicare fees if the target is exceeded.”

“About 8% of GDP is plenty for ‘best known’ care.”

“A progressive policy regime will control and rationalize financing—control supply.”

Continued:

“The unaided human mind, and the acts of the individual, cannot assure excellence. Health care is a system, and its performance is a systemic property.”

“Health care is a common good—single payer, speaking and buying for the common good.”

“And it’s important also to make health a human right because the main health determinants are not health care but sanitation, nutrition, housing, social justice, employment, and the like.”

“Hence, those working in health care delivery may be faced with situations in which it seems that the best course is to manipulate the flawed system for the benefit of a specific patient or segment of the population, rather than to work to improve the delivery of care for all. Such manipulation produces more flaws, and the downward spiral continues.”

“For-profit, entrepreneurial providers of medical imaging, renal dialysis, and outpatient surgery, for example, may find their business opportunities constrained.”

“One over-demanded service is prevention: annual physicals, screening tests, and other measures that supposedly help catch diseases early.”

“I would place a commitment to excellence—standardization to the best-known method—above clinician autonomy as a rule for care.”

“Health care has taken a century to learn how badly we need the best of Frederick Taylor [the father of scientific management]. If we can’t standardize appropriate parts of our processes to absolute reliability, we cannot approach perfection.”

“Young doctors and nurses should emerge from training understanding the values of standardization and the risks of too great an emphasis on individual autonomy.”

“Political leaders in the Labour Government have become more enamored of the use of market forces and choice as an engine for change, rather than planned, centrally coordinated technical support.”

“The U.K has people in charge of its health care—people with the clear duty and much of the authority to take on the challenge of changing the system as a whole. The U.S. does not.”

Mark, I think you’re throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. Don Berwick is a passionate advocate for patients’ rights, and doing what the patient wants and needs, not what the professionals think should be done. If you read his essay, you’ll see where he’s coming from. Healthcare benefits aside, he is a STELLAR candidate to run CMS. I doubt it would be possible to find a better one.

In case folks don’t read the whole essay, here is a highlight–Don Berwick’s suggestions for “rules” for hospitals to be sure they meet patients’ needs:

(1) Hospitals would have no restrictions on visiting—no restrictions of place or time or person, except restrictions chosen by and under the control of each indi- vidual patient.
(2) Patients would determine what food they eat and what clothes they wear in hospitals (to the extent that health status allows).
(3) Patients and family members would participate in rounds.
(4) Patients and families would participate in the design of health care processes and services.
(5) Medical records would belong to patients. Clinicians, rather than patients, would need to have permission to gain access to them.
(6) Shared decision-making technologies would be used universally.
(7) Operating room schedules would conform to ideal queuing theory designs aimed at minimizing waiting time, rather than to the convenience of clinicians.
(8) Patients physically capable of self-care would, in all situations, have the option to do it.

Imagine how different healthcare could look if his philosophy prevailed?

The article is outstanding, this is stuff I have complained about for a long time. How would the people in the dialysis industry like to be treated as we are treated? If you are a dialysis patient in the hospital, individuals on the medical stuff automatically make certain assumptions and you know how that makes them look to the patient. Patients or medical consumers should be able to eat what they want, not subject to the Nazi like “You may not have that.” Guess what, that is really none of your business. In the example of the mammogram, I would have told those clowns, "Either you tell me the results, or I will take my business somewhere else, that simple. I am very leary of any individual who has the “I know what is best for you” mentality. Sadly, that is the attitude of the vast majority of the dialysis industry. If you go to Nurses Online under dialysis, you will constantly see that point of view, without exception. In other words, when they say they are here to help you, it means, they are here to control you and your life, every single step of the way. Some of the uncaring attitudes of people in the dialysis field are amazing. YES, I know, I was a police officer, I know you have to distance your feelings to a reasonable point. However, the uncaring responses of some of these people were horrible. Medical people in the medical field have a right to make decisions. Yet, they have to learn to live with the end results of those decisions.

The quotes of Dr. Berwick were obtained from the Wall Street Journal. I have a serious problem with Obama sidestepping and disrespecting the U.S.Constitution, in other words, this is not a thug regime. Obama and his administration are subject to the U.S Constitution , they are not above the law. Obama is going to give tax breaks to wealthy trial lawyers, without Congressional approval, this violates the Constitution. I thought Obama believe the rich are corrupt and need to give back their ill-gotten gains to the rightful owners of the country. The U.S. Constitution was written to protect the public from a repressive regime, government tyranny. While I agree with the essay, I disagree with Dr Berwick in respect to a free market medical system. In other words, the consumer with the power of money or a dollar, has all the power in the world to prevent these abuses of individual liberty. The power of a dollar is much stronger that any written law or prescription of law. The medical profession, currently, is NOT acting in the best interests of the patient. The way to prevent that abuse is patient or medical consumer power, with the power of a dollar or dollars. I wish the government and private insurance would leave the medical profession, get out of my face. The problem is that medical consumers have taught that everyone else knows that is best for them, that is a load of garbage.

Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government. They are every human being’s entitlement by virtue of his humanity. The right to life does not depend, and must not be contingent, on the pleasure of anyone else, not even a parent or sovereign. … You must weep that your own government, at present, seems blind to this truth.-Mother Teresa

[QUOTE=Dori Schatell;19912]Mark, I think you’re throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. Don Berwick is a passionate advocate for patients’ rights, and doing what the patient wants and needs, not what the professionals think should be done. If you read his essay, you’ll see where he’s coming from. Healthcare benefits aside, he is a STELLAR candidate to run CMS. I doubt it would be possible to find a better one.

In case folks don’t read the whole essay, here is a highlight–Don Berwick’s suggestions for “rules” for hospitals to be sure they meet patients’ needs:

(1) Hospitals would have no restrictions on visiting—no restrictions of place or time or person, except restrictions chosen by and under the control of each indi- vidual patient.
(2) Patients would determine what food they eat and what clothes they wear in hospitals (to the extent that health status allows).
(3) Patients and family members would participate in rounds.
(4) Patients and families would participate in the design of health care processes and services.
(5) Medical records would belong to patients. Clinicians, rather than patients, would need to have permission to gain access to them.
(6) Shared decision-making technologies would be used universally.
(7) Operating room schedules would conform to ideal queuing theory designs aimed at minimizing waiting time, rather than to the convenience of clinicians.
(8) Patients physically capable of self-care would, in all situations, have the option to do it.

Imagine how different healthcare could look if his philosophy prevailed?[/QUOTE]

Dear Dori, I usually agree with all that you post, but I can’t see how these will improve care.

(1) Hospitals would have no restrictions on visiting—no restrictions of place or time or person, except restrictions chosen by and under the control of each indi- vidual patient.

Many inner city hospitals have security issues. In fact, even in rural areas, securing the new born areas is a primary issue with many kidnappings documented in the last few years. In addition, some times nurses actually bath patients so visitors would impose upon the schedule of work that simply has to have a time to be completed. In addition, I have seen sick patients overwhelmed by a room full of visitors. At times, peace and quiet is what patients need. Not having any limitations to visitors seems like chaos to me. Many patients in the ICU have liberal visitation rules for significant others. I have seen a spouse spend the night on a cot or even in chairs side by side the nursing staff. Most hospitals are flexible when it comes to the spouse in private rooms.

(2) Patients would determine what food they eat and what clothes they wear in hospitals (to the extent that health status allows).

Some patients are in the hospital because of dietary indiscretions such as CHF patients who can’t put down the potato chips and pickles. Sodium levels in food need to be controlled as part of the therapy in these patients. It can literally mean the difference between life and death in a poorly compensated CHF patient. In addition renal patients and diabetics rounded out those that truly have dietary needs. I just don’t see this as something that is not considered as part of the therapeutic arsenal of physicians. We would hope that most patients would make the right choices, but man do not.

(3) Patients and family members would participate in rounds.

I have spent many years learning how to listen to my patients which is the most effective tool in diagnosis and then curing illnesses. I am not sure what he would mean by this since patients and family do participate in rounds, but then there truly is a place where frank and technical talk must take place between the members of the medical team. In fact, the medical needs the privacy of closed doors to work out conflicting goals of therapy between specialists at times. Not that anything needs to be hidden, but instead, the peace of mind of the patient and family is a consideration that is actually part of the therapeutic approach. A patient and his family that is scared and stressed is a patient that will not do as well as a patient who is comfortable and at ease. There are times where the physiology of the illness dictates different goals between specialists such as increasing fluid for the kidney but decreasing fluid for the heart. There is no right or wrong way to approach that but a balance between the two that sometimes just doesn’t exist.

In addition, once you get beyond the training institutions, most doctors have such conflicting schedules that you could never have joint rounds with all the team members at one place and time for every patient in the hospital. The reality is that the team usually sees the patients sequentially throughout the day according to the dictates of their individual schedules. The only times we would have joint rounds were with family conferences discussing difficult decisions. In such a case, they were part of these rounds. They have started doing this in the renal units and it imposes a large burden on the staff and is not efficient time wise. Most the time the dietician and the social worker have to come back after rounds to get the information that they need. It is just an unworkable regulation in a hospital setting.

(4) Patients and families would participate in the design of health care processes and services.

Many hospitals already have multidisciplinary teams including patients and other “lay” people that often improve care dramatically.

(5) Medical records would belong to patients. Clinicians, rather than patients, would need to have permission to gain access to them.

How would something like that work? What if the patient and family decline, how will a doctor care for such a person.? In addition, who is going to secure the records? One aspect of the medical record is to document exactly what is happening in the minds of the medical team as they care for the patient. In such, the fact that these records belong to those that are assembling the record is for our own protection as well as for the communication of the treatment plan to the rest of those involved in the care of the patient. I have never had any difficulty having patients or family reading the medical record, but in a secure environment where the record remains intact.

I spent several years in the Army where patients were responsible for their own medical records. I had a false accusation made against me by a patient mad at me for refusing to give her controlled medications. She removed all of my documentation on how I referred her to headache specialists and pain specialists and the only way in which I did not get into great trouble since her father was a 3 star general was the fact that I kept a carbon copy of ALL of my notes. She removed about 12 pages out of the clinical record in an attempt to incriminate me. She was able to get an inquiry into her care through the congressional review that many people are aware of, but in this case with her father’s political clout got a Presidential inquiry. We had to do depositions and President Bill Clinton signed off on the completed evaluation. If it were not for my habit of carbon copying ALL of my clinic notes, it is possible I could have been unfairly placed under a court martial.

Simply put, I would NEVER treat any patient where they controlled the record keeping and I couldn’t. The legal system can be incredibly punitive to doctors and proper legal documentation to show we are adhering to the standard of medical care often is the only thing that keeps us out of trouble. If the patients want their own records, so be it, but I would by self preservation keep my own separate set of records in such a system. I am sure the lawyers will love this system if it is ever enacted since doctors do not have the same constitutional protections that the ordinary citizen has. If it is not documented in the chart, it is assumed it wasn’t done or thought of. Patients have bad outcomes due to diseases outside of the control of doctors. I had one of my colleagues that was successfully sued over smoking and the heart attack was blamed on the doctor because he never documented in his notes smoke cessation advice. This was despite the fact that other doctors before him had documented smoke cessation and the risks associated with smoking in the chart. He was an older physician that spent the time with the patients instead of the time with the chart. Score one for the lawyers.

(6) Shared decision-making technologies would be used universally.

I have seen cases where the proper algorhythm was used and the patient died because of not going with a doctors hunch. No case fits all predesigned outlines.

(7) Operating room schedules would conform to ideal queuing theory designs aimed at minimizing waiting time, rather than to the convenience of clinicians.

MOst patients do not understand that operating rooms use specially designed software to schedule multiple surgeries a day. Believe it or not, doctors cannot predict what they will encounter when they operate on patients and what should have taken a certain amount of time may take 2-3 times that time due to specific patient characteristics. My day as a physician on call was usually predicated on who was the most in need of urgent treatment and who was stable. The patients perception may have been that was at my convenience but in reality, a doctors schedule is hectic and filled with one emergency after another all day long. The sickest patients get the attention first. That was the dictates of my usual schedule. Isn’t there a built in bias against doctors in this statement? Most doctors spend the day running from patient to patient with little time even to eat.

(8) Patients physically capable of self-care would, in all situations, have the option to do it.

If a patient is capable of self care, invariably they should be discharged home if at all possible. For those in a hospital situation, there are procedures that need to be done correctly and this takes training and dedication to learn, for instance home dialysis which takes minimum of 3 weeks in most cases. I do agree that a person well versed in diabetes often knows their own body better than the nurses or doctors and some aspects of their care are best in their hands. It all depends on what part of the care we are discussing.

I frankly do not know how I would operate in such a system as described above. I am one physician that spent an inordinate amount of time with my patients and communicated openly with all of them. But there comes a point in time where I needed to sit down at my desk and do my work. Part of that work included the very important task of documenting our conversation, the risk, benefit and alternatives of any informed consent given and the treatments and diagnostic data. In fact, the majority of my record keeping was self protective documentation above and beyond what was needed to communicate to my colleagues. It is simply a fact of medicine that every encounter could end up under the scrutiny of a court. In such, those are MY records to prove I have acted in accordance to accepted medical standards. All medical records in my system were available under the proper procedure for the patients, but they clearly belonged to my HMO for our legal protection as well as for the communication of facts.

There are many ways in which we can enhance patients rights and access to medical records as well as involving them in the “team” concept, but there has to be a way for docs and nurses to just simply do their work once the discussions are completed. The outcome of such a system as outlined above would be several hours work each day to all the professionals day. Well that add to patient care? I vote a resounding no, it will not.

Case in point, my wife had to have an emergency surgery a few years ago. It was in the middle of my work week. I was able to cancel clinic for those two days but there were a few items that had to be done those two days. I spent almost the entire 48 hours she was in the hospital with her except for two hours each day. The first day, she was only 4 hours post op when I left. I came back about 2 hours later and no nurse had been in to see her. She couldn’t reach the table for some ice water because of the IVs and a urinary catheter. She dropped the call button for the nursing station. Yet the documentation was completed in her chart. The second day, the only time the nurses came into her room was for BP checks. I took her to the bathroom and helped her in and out of bed myself. The nurses of today are so busy documenting JCAHO requirements that they no longer have much time at all for actual patient care such as bed baths. The tasks that I helped my wife with were the tasks that 30 years ago were solely in the usual care of the nursing staff. In many ways, today you have to do self care because the nurses are too busy documenting the charts to keep the hospital out of trouble with JCAHO. I just don’t see this as ending in improved patient care which is what I believe he is trying to communicate.

I just read through the essay. The cardiac cath case is something I would like to comment on. I spent a fair amount of time in the ER taking care of heart attack patients. The cardiac cath room is a place that I used to go and observe all the time while I was writing up my report. It is a small space with a lot going on very rapidly under sterile conditions. The patient is completely draped and there is usually a circulating nurse and a scrub nurse standing beside the doctor. Things happen very fast and the techs often are moving radiology equipment and quickly gathering supplies. There just is not a lot of room for any extra people. As the treating physician, I was never allowed in the room itself. I have had fearful patients before the cath, and I served the medical team by holding hands and telling them straight to their face that they had every reason to trust the people that were going to be in the room with him.

Instead Dr. Berwick appears to have added to her fear. Sometimes it is better to give a comforting word that settles a patient. I think Dr. Berwick did not at all handle that case as I would even if it was my own wife. When she had her emergency surgery, I could have insisted on going into the operating room but that would have just been a distraction to them. Instead, I held my wife’s hand, prayed with her and reassured her that my colleagues were the best in the business with in a very real sense they were. Is Dr. Berwick implying that I should have insisted on going into the OR and becoming a distraction to my wife’s medical team? I believe he had the right title, he is an extremist view in this article.

Let me comment on the email at Kaiser since I was directly involved in this. He implies something that did not happen when he says patient visits declined. He is referring to the number of visits for that specific patient, but the doctor does not see that benefit with his schedule remaining full. All of my colleagues who are under this new electronic health record with email access now spend 2 or more hours a day more than before the system was implemented with the same number of patients that they had before. The toll on the physicians is great since now they must take their work home with them to complete it each day. In addition, on vacation, then now still answer their patients emails and refill meds. The medication refills also have email slots that can generate more work for refills than in the past. A large percentage of my colleagues have gone from full time to 0.8 time i.e. from 5 days a week to 4 days a week clinic time because they can no longer keep up with the demands of talking to their computer all day long. Because of this, they spend less time in each visit than they did before just because of the additional computer tasks for each visit. To fill prescriptions they must answer all of the questions first. I take great exception to Dr. Berwick on this comment which implies a lessoning of the physicians work load when it has in fact increased with this new system.

Hi Peter,

I think it’s fairly safe to say that Dr. Berwick was being intentionally provocative in his essay–showing a vision of what patient-centered care could look like, and shaking up the status quo. Would everything go as far as he suggests here? I doubt it. For example, a hospitalized patient who wanted guests at 3 a.m. could not have a rowdy party that would disturb the sleep of others. That patient’s rights can’t be allowed to trample those of other patients. But if a guest is quiet and respectful, and helps reduce the patient’s anxiety–and help her to the bathroom as you did for your wife? Why not?

As far as dietary limits, he said “to the extent that health status allows.” To me, that would mean that your hypothetical patient with CHF wouldn’t get the potato chips–unless s/he was educated about what would happen and made an informed choice to eat them anyway, perhaps to hasten death on purpose. Assisted suicide is not legal in most of this country. I’m sure we could argue that point. :wink:

Medical records? I think your concerns are legitimate–there are certainly legal repercussions that could result from incomplete or altered records. My concern would be very different. If I had to keep my own medical records, how could I be certain that they would be accessible to my healthcare team when they’re needed? What if they get lost in my office? What if my house burns down or is flooded?

In general, the point I think Berwick was making was that we need to examine ALL of our premises about how care is delivered. When I was at the ASN meeting in San Diego last fall, I got together with a long-term dialyzor who happens to be a system analyst. She described her experience at a well-known transplant clinic, where the appointments were set up such that everyone who would be seen that day had to show up at 7am–and then the staff would get to them as they could. Some people waited all day. They were quite indignant when she pointed out that this “system” disrespected her time. It fit their time just fine, thank you very much! She got on the list at a different center, and who could blame her? This is a classic example of a system that is designed for the convenience of the providers–not the patients. We can rethink at least some of these systems and improve them.

As far as the cardiac cath lab; I think it is a rare room that doesn’t have space for one more person. A cardiac catheterization would be terrifying, and that level of anxiety is hardly helpful to someone who has a heart problem! I’m not as sure as you that they could not have accommodated her. I’m not so sure they really thought past, “we’ve never done it that way before.”

I’m also not so sure that it’s documenting for JCAHO that keeps floor nurses from really doing much of anything in the way of direct patient care. When I worked my way through school as a nursing assistant in the early '80s, I worked on a very busy and usually packed floor that served General Medicine, Pulmonary Medicine, Family Practice Medicine, Dermatology, and Renal Medicine. We had 36 beds of medium-to-high-acuity patients. When I started in '82, we had 4 nurses and 2 nursing assistants per shift, then it went to 3 and 3. We ran our behinds off! The next unit over was transplant. Those patients were up and walking within a day or two (they were pre-transplant or post-ICU), and MUCH lower acuity–but the transplant service brought in far more money than General Med etc., so their staffing was double. I have no idea how staffing decisions are made today, but when I broke my ankle 3 years ago and spent a couple of nights in the hospital, I barely saw any staff the whole time. (And the food went downhill about 90% since the '80s, too. ;-)). So, I suspect it’s not just charting requirements that take nurses out of direct patient care–it’s inadequate staffing in general, for whatever reason…

As a former police officer, I would agree with the good doctor’s point on #1. Many inner-city hospitals have serious security issues and restricting access is for the safety of the patient and the staff.

Professor Emertius of Organic Chemistry Joel Kauffman:

Salt limitation to 6 g/day “to lower blood pressure” was presented despite the very persuasive evidence showing that BP will go down in only 1/5 of people, that it will go up in 1/5, and that 3/5 will be almost unaffected by changing salt intake. Overall, in the gigantic Intersalt trial, there was little effect of salt on BP, while greater potassium intake was hypotensive. In 2003, the Cochrane Collaboration agreed.

If you are on dialysis, you realize that you are to run on the time of the dialysis clinic, not your time. I would have fired that transplant clinic with out thinking. This is the arrogance that I have been talking about time and again. My nephrologist runs on time and many times, he runs early. I have received more than a few calls, “Would you be willing to come in early??” The Nephrologist respects my time and I respect his time, that is why I have busted my fanny to get to the office on time. As stated by General Patton, “Everyone is replaceable.” The transplant program that I went to, extremely arrogant. The transplant program thought that everyone ran on their time, sorry, WRONG! I am going to pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars for this procedure, do you think I am going to run on your time, I think not. My sister, who was going to give me the transplant, a head charge R.N. for major research hospital, was not impressed. She said that the program was performing very expensive tests before very cheap tests, the cheap tests in the beginning could have elminated her as a donor. Sounds like the tests were for the benefit of the hospital, not for the benefit of my sister or me.

[QUOTE=Dori Schatell;19917]Hi Peter,

I think it’s fairly safe to say that Dr. Berwick was being intentionally provocative in his essay–showing a vision of what patient-centered care could look like, and shaking up the status quo. Would everything go as far as he suggests here? I doubt it. For example, a hospitalized patient who wanted guests at 3 a.m. could not have a rowdy party that would disturb the sleep of others. That patient’s rights can’t be allowed to trample those of other patients. But if a guest is quiet and respectful, and helps reduce the patient’s anxiety–and help her to the bathroom as you did for your wife? Why not?

As far as dietary limits, he said “to the extent that health status allows.” To me, that would mean that your hypothetical patient with CHF wouldn’t get the potato chips–unless s/he was educated about what would happen and made an informed choice to eat them anyway, perhaps to hasten death on purpose. Assisted suicide is not legal in most of this country. I’m sure we could argue that point. :wink:

Medical records? I think your concerns are legitimate–there are certainly legal repercussions that could result from incomplete or altered records. My concern would be very different. If I had to keep my own medical records, how could I be certain that they would be accessible to my healthcare team when they’re needed? What if they get lost in my office? What if my house burns down or is flooded?

In general, the point I think Berwick was making was that we need to examine ALL of our premises about how care is delivered. When I was at the ASN meeting in San Diego last fall, I got together with a long-term dialyzor who happens to be a system analyst. She described her experience at a well-known transplant clinic, where the appointments were set up such that everyone who would be seen that day had to show up at 7am–and then the staff would get to them as they could. Some people waited all day. They were quite indignant when she pointed out that this “system” disrespected her time. It fit their time just fine, thank you very much! She got on the list at a different center, and who could blame her? This is a classic example of a system that is designed for the convenience of the providers–not the patients. We can rethink at least some of these systems and improve them.

As far as the cardiac cath lab; I think it is a rare room that doesn’t have space for one more person. A cardiac catheterization would be terrifying, and that level of anxiety is hardly helpful to someone who has a heart problem! I’m not as sure as you that they could not have accommodated her. I’m not so sure they really thought past, “we’ve never done it that way before.”

I’m also not so sure that it’s documenting for JCAHO that keeps floor nurses from really doing much of anything in the way of direct patient care. When I worked my way through school as a nursing assistant in the early '80s, I worked on a very busy and usually packed floor that served General Medicine, Pulmonary Medicine, Family Practice Medicine, Dermatology, and Renal Medicine. We had 36 beds of medium-to-high-acuity patients. When I started in '82, we had 4 nurses and 2 nursing assistants per shift, then it went to 3 and 3. We ran our behinds off! The next unit over was transplant. Those patients were up and walking within a day or two (they were pre-transplant or post-ICU), and MUCH lower acuity–but the transplant service brought in far more money than General Med etc., so their staffing was double. I have no idea how staffing decisions are made today, but when I broke my ankle 3 years ago and spent a couple of nights in the hospital, I barely saw any staff the whole time. (And the food went downhill about 90% since the '80s, too. ;-)). So, I suspect it’s not just charting requirements that take nurses out of direct patient care–it’s inadequate staffing in general, for whatever reason…[/QUOTE]

Dear Dori,

Thank you for you reply as always. The nursing issues and staffing ratios are at an all time low as far as morale and as far as the work for each staff member. This is true even in the ICU and PCU settings at times where it used to always be 1:1 in the ICU and now at times it is 1:2 ratios. Some sick patients demand around the clock care by a dedicated nurse to stay alive. I knew of the staffing issues and that is why I spent the entire night both nights my wife was inpatient. I didn’t ask anyone to do so, but having an MD does have some privileges still. after all, how do you kick a doctor on staff out of the hospital? Most patients would not have had that option. One of my patients about 3 months before this had a DVT/PE that left him on bed rest until his anticoagulation was effective. He went into mild renal failure because he could almost never get his ice water refilled with the nurses ignoring his call button. In addition, he ended up with a large bed sore that took several months to heal. He was only in his mid 60’s and shouldn’t have had either complication. Much of this goes back to the many unfunded mandates that hospitals must work under to stay accredited which greatly affects their financial status.

On the other hand, the documentation is incredible these days for the nurses and it does take an inordinate amount of time. My mother was an RN for over 30 years total and the change from the 50’s to the 80’s when she stopped hospital work was incredible. The requirements since then are even more rigorous. Further, the number of RN’s on each floor is dramatically lower than 30 years ago as you have pointed out and the LVNs are being replaced by Nurses aides who really have very limited clinical training to be able to recognize when a patient is in trouble. A good nurse is the patients best friend since doctors spend a very limited amount of time with the patients during the day. I learned that lesson well first hand from my own mother when I worked with her as an orderly for one year when I was 19. I learned to listen to the experienced nurses when they were concerned about a specific patient which prevented many complications by dealing with the issue early. That type of attention by the RNs with the clinical skills needed to recognize a patient deteriorating early on is perhaps the largest issue in my mind on patient safety today from a physician perspective. If the nursing staff isn’t even stopping in often, then how can the doctor intervene in a timely manner?

The cardiac cath lab can be a scary place, but there is very much a therapeutic role that the referring physician plays in calming patients fears. In an emergency, many patients can bond quickly with the emergency medical team and gain confidence. I would have focussed on that instead of the latter I believe. The last thing I want to do is add another stressor to the doctor who holds that patients life in his hands. They have enough to worry about and do right. I have had several medical procedures myself and trusting the people doing the procedure is a very important part of the entire interaction. I suspect that if this was Dr. Berwick’s hospital that he worked at, there wouldn’t have been any issue at all. When my father was in the ICU with CHF a year before he passed away, the medical staff was very confrontational, at least some of them with me and my brother who is a nurse anesthetist.

They were asking us to make life and death decisions, but they were very reluctant to openly give us his medical records so that we could make a professional level decision based on our fund of knowledge. They said I could only read them with the attending physician present. That was an abuse of time for the attending physician who didn’t have the time to sit down while I read through every page of his records looking at all details. I picked up two conditions that were not addressed by his team when I was able to finally look at them in detail. My father survived when he was not expected to by the medical team. They wanted to pull the plug many times during the 12 days he was intubated. He had one more year because I recognized he still had a fighting chance. They only allowed this after we made a complaint to the administrators. If my father had not filled out the proper paper work, they would not have allowed any review. I still believe that they covered up a medical mistake in the ER that crashed his blood pressure making him hypotensive and causing several of his complications. I mentioned my concerns to the first nurse on the night I got in from CA to Boston and she openly said that there was a medication given in the ER not documented in the chart, but she was told about it in the nurse to nurse report. She confirmed my suspicions but it was vigorously denied afterwards by all of the other staff. Thank the Lord that my mother over heard the nurse talking to me that night, otherwise my concerns would have been thought to be an over reaction by the rest of my family. Since he survived despite all the odds, we didn’t pursue anything and it is unlikely that the verbal report would have held up as evidence anyway.

It is really interesting that the doctor that caused the greatest heartache was quite willing to pull the plug on my father, but he absolutely refused to place him on a medication that might improve his ICU confusion, but it did have a black box warning. My Pulmonary colleague in CA suggested it would be helpful and it had worked on his mother. He had such a terrible outcome with his pulmonary colleagues with his own mother that he took her out of the hospital and set up an ICU in her home. It helps that his father was a retired ENT surgeon and his brother was one of the best OB/GYN doctors at UCLA. They hired a nurse and he not only kept her alive on a ventilator in her own home, but she survived for another year. His colleagues argued to pull the plug on her as well. I see a great trend in medicine to not give a person a chance of making it even when the odds look very grim. This is a new mindset that I have seen in person with my own father. I believe it is wrong.

Do we need to improve the system? Absolutely, but we really can’t throw the baby out with the bath water.l The example of the cattle call by the transplant team is incredible. Most medical centers separate the team into on call and off call, or post call so that they do not have one team doing both at the same time. Hospital patients can deteriorate quickly and clinic visits get dropped all the time. The doctor has no choice in this situation, but better planning should avoid this. Since going on dialysis, I have been on the other side of cattle calls myself and they are always aggravating. I don’t believe it is necessary to run a program that way.

Thank you again for the posts on this topic. Open discussion is always a good method of finding out what issues need to be improved, but I would hope that the doctors get a fair hearing as well. The life of a typical doctor is hectic and nothing that most reasonable folks would choose for themselves. There is only so much that a physician can do in 24 hours and some of the recommendations at the outset looked to me that it would add even more burdens to an already burdensome day. The situation is not good on both sides of the aisle.

Good post and points.

Mark