What to Do About Pre-existing Conditions- University of Chicago School of Business

By JOHN H. COCHRANE
Even if you don’t like the massive health-care package being considered in Congress, you have to admit that health insurance and health care in this country are not working well. There are two basic problems:

First, if you get sick and then lose your job or get divorced, you lose your health insurance. With a pre-existing condition, new insurance will be ruinously expensive, if you can get it at all. This, the central defect of American health insurance, explains why most Americans are happy with their current coverage yet also support reform.

Second, health care costs too much. Yes, we get better treatment, but the cost-cutting revolution that has swept through manufacturing, retail, telecommunications and airlines has not touched health care.

The problems are real, but the proposed remedy—even more government intervention—is counterproductive. A market-based, deregulation-focused reform is possible, and it will work.

Health care and insurance are service-oriented, retail businesses. There is only one way to reduce costs in such a business: intense competition for every customer. The idea that the federal government can reduce costs by negotiating harder or telling businesses what to do is a triumph of hope over centuries of experience.

Take the claim that centralized record-keeping can cut costs. In his July 22 press conference, President Barack Obama noted that a new doctor today might run a test again rather than ask for records of a previous result. That seems silly. But maybe it isn’t. Maybe the test is cheap, the condition changes, the test can fail, and the cost of setting up an integrated record system between these two doctors isn’t worth two tests a year.

The cost-cutting revolutions in other industries didn’t settle questions like these with acts of Congress, expert commissions, armies of regulators, or via a “public option”—while leaving in place a system in which consumers have little choice, aren’t spending their own money, and suppliers are protected from lower-cost competitors. That approach has never spurred efficiency, and for good reasons. Cost-cutting is painful. Even in Mr. Obama’s trivial example, lab technicians and secretaries will lose their jobs to computer programs, and they will complain. Patients might have to get tests at inconvenient times and locations. They will do this when their money is at stake—what people will put up with from airlines for a few dollars is truly amazing—but they will never accept it from the government.

But what about pre-existing conditions?

A truly effective insurance policy would combine coverage for this year’s expenses with the right to buy insurance in the future at a set price. Today, employer-based group coverage provides the former but, crucially, not the latter. A “guaranteed renewable” individual insurance contract is the simplest way to deliver both. Once you sign up, you can keep insurance for life, and your premiums do not rise if you get sicker. Term life insurance, for example, is fully guaranteed renewable. Individual health insurance is mostly so. And insurers are getting more creative. UnitedHealth now lets you buy the right to future insurance—insurance against developing a pre-existing condition.

These market solutions can be refined. Insurance policies could separate current insurance and the right to buy future insurance. Then, if you are temporarily covered by an employer, you could keep the pre-existing-condition protection.

Some insurers avoid their guaranteed-renewable obligations by assigning people to pools and raising rates as healthy people leave the pools. Health insurers, like life insurers, could write contracts that treat all of their customers equally.

The right to future insurance could be transferrable to another company, for example, if you move. You could have the right that your company will pay a lump sum, so that a new insurer will take you, with no change in your premiums. Better, this sum could be occasionally placed in a custodial account. If you got sick but had something like a health-savings account to pay high premiums, you could always get new insurance. Insurers would then compete for sick people too.

Innovations like these would catch on quickly in a vibrant, deregulated individual insurance market.

How do we know insurers will honor such contracts? What about the stories of insurers who drop customers when they get sick? A competitive market is the best consumer protection. A car insurer that doesn’t pay claims quickly loses customers and goes out of business. And courts do still enforce contracts.

How do we get to a competitive market? The tax deduction for employer-provided group insurance, which has nearly destroyed the individual insurance market, is a central culprit. If we don’t have the will to remove it, the deduction could be structured to enhance competition and the right to future insurance. We could restrict the tax deduction to individual, portable, long-term insurance and to the high-deductible plans that people choose with their own money.

More importantly, health care and insurance are overly protected and regulated businesses. We need to allow the same innovation, entry, and competition that has slashed costs elsewhere in our economy. For example, we need to remove regulations such as the ban on cross-state insurance. Think about it. What else aren’t we allowed to purchase in another state?

The bills being considered in Congress address the pre-existing condition problem by forcing insurers to take everybody at the same price. It won’t work. Insurers will still avoid sick people and treat them poorly once they come. Regulators will then detail exactly how every disease must be treated. Healthy people will pay too much, so we will need a stern mandate to keep them insured. And this step further reduces competition.

Private, competitive insurance markets are a superior way to solve the pre-existing-conditions problem, and the only hope to lower costs.

Mr. Cochrane is professor of finance at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, and author of “Health Status Insurance” (Cato, 2009).

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203609204574316172512242220.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

I am currently facing looking for secondary insurance. I had to go on disabilty and shortly after, the insurance which I had through my employer ended. I then had the option of COBRA which I am currently on. Tha is unil October of this year when it will come to an end.
I have been searching left and right for secondary coverage with a pre-existing condtion. My choices are that I can pay 901.00 per month or have no coverage at all. There is only 1company in the state in which I reside that will take on a pre-existing condition and I will haveto pay the cost for it or have nothing at all. Those are my choices. The company is Anthem.which is a Blue Cross company.
The thing that upsets me the most is that the Blue Cross company in a different state, which has the same exact plan for less than half of the cost. From what I have been told, Apparently the state has some type of agreement with the company to provide a lower rate.
To top it off, I must also find a Medicare Prescription Plan which of course has the doughnut hole.
It is my opinion that you should be able to purchase insurance across state lines. I believe that with the competition, the rates would be lower to a certain point.
I know different people have different opinions ofthe current HealthCare Situation and what should or should not be done.
One thing for certain is that whatever the decision is, It should not be rushed into action It should be carefully planned out in full detail, or at least as much detail currenly possible instead of signing a plan and worrying about the details later…So when you ask the question what do you do:about pre-existing conditions, my answer is try to pay or have no secondary insurance…

///MM

Brian, I’ve been trying to stay out of the healthcare reform discussions here. Personally, I don’t think they belong on a forum about home dialysis. So I’m not going to argue a point of view now. But think about this. If Anthem is charging for the same exact plan more than 50% of what it is charging in your state, the question isn’t why you can’t buy across state lines, but why is Anthem charging so much in your state? I’m sure someone going to chime in and say something like it’s the American Way and a company should be able to chanrge as much as it wants and the nature of competition will control the market. But it seems like Anthem is the only carrier in both states. So are you suggesting it should be competing against itself?

  • I need to correct a statement in my previous post: The Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association is an association of independent, locally operated Blue Cross and Blue Shield Plans. The Blue Cross Plan in the state in which I previously lived had a much cheaper plan with the same coverage…

I agree that when it comes to Healthcare, there is no one answer as people have different opnions and everyone will more than likely never agree 100%. The discussions can go on forever. I decided to post because this is a current issue I am going through.

As for my situation the reason they are able to charge so much as a social worker stated to me is " because they can" Each state has its regulations. This is why one state can be much cheaper than the next state over. The federal government is the one currently not allowing the purchase of health insurance across state line. You can purchase car, life and many other types of insurance, but not health insurance in other states,

Ahhh I think I’m giving myself a headache…

///MM

[QUOTE=MiracleMan;18397]I am currently facing looking for secondary insurance. I had to go on disabilty and shortly after, the insurance which I had through my employer ended. I then had the option of COBRA which I am currently on. Tha is unil October of this year when it will come to an end.
I have been searching left and right for secondary coverage with a pre-existing condtion. My choices are that I can pay 901.00 per month or have no coverage at all. There is only 1company in the state in which I reside that will take on a pre-existing condition and I will haveto pay the cost for it or have nothing at all. Those are my choices. The company is Anthem.which is a Blue Cross company.
The thing that upsets me the most is that the Blue Cross company in a different state, which has the same exact plan for less than half of the cost. From what I have been told, Apparently the state has some type of agreement with the company to provide a lower rate.
To top it off, I must also find a Medicare Prescription Plan which of course has the doughnut hole.
It is my opinion that you should be able to purchase insurance across state lines. I believe that with the competition, the rates would be lower to a certain point.
I know different people have different opinions ofthe current HealthCare Situation and what should or should not be done.
One thing for certain is that whatever the decision is, It should not be rushed into action It should be carefully planned out in full detail, or at least as much detail currenly possible instead of signing a plan and worrying about the details later…So when you ask the question what do you do:about pre-existing conditions, my answer is try to pay or have no secondary insurance…

///MM[/QUOTE]

Exactly my point.

Most likely, in MM’s state there are many more regulations and mandates, greatly increasing the cost of his potential policy. I refuse to see why MM’s state is protecting a monopoly. No, the lack of competition is not the American way.

MM’s state needs competition in the health insurance market. Why should MM pay for vote buying State Senators and Reps?

Mark

I would just like to post an update.

I called Blue Cross of PA for a quote on what my options would be if I lived in that state. I first asked if I was guaranteed a plan ieven though I have a pre-existing condition and ESRD. The anwer is Yes, they must give make available at least one option to meet my needs.
After a few questions, the plan that would meet all criteria and cover ESRD/Dialysis. Now here comes the topper. The price of this seondary plan which covers pre-existing/ESRD would be 150.00 per month. I just about dropped. As stated before, the comperable Blue Cross plan in VA is 901.00 per month. Agian, I asked the rep why this can be and as usual, he stated “because the state lets them and they can”

Another Example to let people buy Health Insurance Across State Lines…

///MM

Have you considered moving? You might save enough money to pay your rent!

[QUOTE=MiracleMan;18406]I would just like to post an update.

I called Blue Cross of PA for a quote on what my options would be if I lived in that state. I first asked if I was guaranteed a plan ieven though I have a pre-existing condition and ESRD. The anwer is Yes, they must give make available at least one option to meet my needs.
After a few questions, the plan that would meet all criteria and cover ESRD/Dialysis. Now here comes the topper. The price of this seondary plan which covers pre-existing/ESRD would be 150.00 per month. I just about dropped. As stated before, the comperable Blue Cross plan in VA is 901.00 per month. Agian, I asked the rep why this can be and as usual, he stated “because the state lets them and they can”

Another Example to let people buy Health Insurance Across State Lines…

///MM[/QUOTE]

Yes, I could not agree more with your post. Competition greatly reduces cost. Now, imagine how much that $150.00 policy would cost for you with competition and without government mandates and regulations. Regulations and mandates increase cost. This is a great lesson in Basic Economics. Now, does anyone think a Single Payer system is still such a hot idea? Competition will do what regulation and mandates can not, reduce prices and cut costs. Do you want to control your health decisions or do you want Obama and minions to control your health care future?

Mark

Another Example to let people buy Health Insurance Across State Lines…

Now, imagine how much that $150.00 policy would cost for you with competition and without government mandates and regulations. Regulations and mandates increase cost.

Actually, the reason why the PA Anthem Insurance is $150 vs. VA’s $901 is because of government mandates and regulation. The PA rate is not due to competition. And the VA rate is higher because of the lack of government andates and regulation. Competition has nothing to do with it.

However, would you not agree that competition lowers cost, Economics 101? I would submit that bringing intense competition to the PA health insurance market, as in every sector of the American economy, would greatly reduce health insurance costs. VA’s insurance rate is due to an insurance monopoly or lack of competition.

There are over 1,300 health insurance companies in the United States. Since this is true, why in some states, do we have a lack of options for health insurance? My question is how can you pile on regulations, mandates and produce a lower cost insurance product, unless you are using price controls?

“Choice of health insurance is limited in Pennsylvania. Highmark and Independence Blue Cross alone constitutes 72 percent of the health insurance market share in Pennsylvania.11
Choice is even more limited for people with pre-existing conditions. In Pennsylvania, premiums can vary based on demographic factors and health status, and coverage can exclude pre-existing conditions or even be denied completely.”

This quote is from individuals that support Obama’s plan.

Certain individuals cannot afford to shop at the grocery store, should the Federal Government take over the food production industry? It is amazing that we can ignore many decades of government mismanagement of the Post Office, Social Security, Medicare, The Defense Department, Public Assistance, Cash for Clunkers, and all of the other examples of Federal mismanagement. The vast majority of the time, the private sector makes decisions based on economic merit and the government makes decisions based on vote buying or politicial self-interest. It is estimated that Social Security and Medicare have $50-$100 trillion in unfunded obligations to the Baby Boom generation. Where do we believe this money will come from, the backyard tree? Under the Obama budget, we will be borrowing almost half of what we are spending in Federal money. Raising taxes will kill the economy and produce less tax revenue to our Treasury.

Does anyone on this board enjoy being treated like a child when you went to the dialysis clinic? If we have ObamaCare stuffed down our throats, we will not be treated as adults, as we were not treated as adults in the dialysis clinic. Senator Kennedy’s actions told us that he believed in life and in the celebration of life. Senator Kennedy had the best specialists, hospitals, physicians, nurses, and he battled cancer to the bitter, bitter end. Senator Kennedy did not have a bureaucrat standing in his way with regards to his health care, those decisions were private. Now, why should Senator Kennedy have these advantages in life and we should have our care rationed?

To MM’s problem. Federal law requires companies that sell Medigap plans to offer an open enrollment period to anyone 65 and older for the first 6 months after getting Medicare. Some states have enacted legislation to regulate insurance companies so that if they sell Medigap plans to those 65 and older they must also sell at least one plan to those who are under 65 for 6 months after they get Medicare. Some states have extended this protection for their citizens to allow them to buy a Medigap plan for a limited time after they lose employer (or COBRA) coverage. Unfortunately, it doesn’t appear that VA has done this whereas PA is one of at least 22 states that has.
http://www.medicare.gov/medigap/under65.asp

Insurance companies have fought this in every state where the legislation has been proposed arguing that it would cause companies to lose too much money to allow them to do business in the state, threatening that there will be fewer choices for consumers. However, other companies realize that there many, many healthy seniors with Medicare in the state than there are people under 65 who might need Medigap coverage and some of those under 65 with disabilities do not require expensive health conditions so pulling out of the state might not make good business sense. Even if some companies do leave a state, most states have adopted the National Association of Insurance Commissioners’ model plan where coverage is designated by letters A-L with all A plans having the same coverage. The only difference between and A plan from Company 1 and an A plan from Company 2 is the premium for those plans. Consumers may not care how many companies sell plans in the state if they can find at least one plan that covers what they want for a price they can afford.

Some states also offer high risk insurance pools. Some won’t take people who have Medicare because even though it leaves gaps, it covers much of the cost of care. Other states will accept people with Medicare. It doesn’t appear that VA offers high risk insurance either.

If you want your state to offer the same protections that other states offer, advocate for it with your state legislators. Join with with other individuals and organizations who might support availability of Medigap coverage for people under 65 with Medicare. Other advocates could include healthcare providers (hospitals, doctors, dialysis facilities) that could count on 100% of Medicare reimbursement, as well as NKF and other health and disability organizations that have constituents who are currently denied coverage.

To be honest, insurance companies, along with every other business, absolutely HATE competition. If you would read Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations, you would know how they hate competition. It is time to get rid of the insurance monopoly, greatly lowering prices and increasing health access to consumers. If we have insurance competition, along with eliminating government regulations and mandates, dialysis patients will have any easy time purchasing insurance. Why in the world should someone on dialysis be forced by government mandate to pay for prostate exam? Being forced to pay for the prostate exam, greatly increases the cost for the dialysis patient. Medicine is shield from competition, raising prices thru the roof. In the LASIK surgery field, prices have decreased by 30 percent and patients are given the home phone of the physician, why? COMPETITION.

Mark

I cannot foresee a world where dialysis patients who have an illness that costs commercial insurers > $100,000 a year having “an easy time purchasing insurance.”

Where did you hear that men are forced by Medicare to pay for prostate exams? Here’s a list of Medicare’s preventive services. Unless otherwise noted, these are covered by Medicare at 80% if patients go to Medicare participating providers:

  • regular screenings for cardiovascular disease (cholesterol test paid at 100%)
  • diabetes screening
  • breast cancer screening (mammogram)
  • cervical and vaginal cancer screening (PAP)
  • colorectal cancer screening
  • prostate cancer (digital exam paid at 80%; PSA paid at 100%)
  • Hepatitis B, flu and pneumonia vaccines
  • screenings for bone mass/osteoporosis
  • diabetes equipment, self-management training and supplies
  • medical nutrition therapy (diabetes & CKD not on dialysis)
  • screening for glaucoma
  • smoking cessation programs for those with smoking-related diseases including heart disease, cerebrovascular disease/stroke, multiple cancers, lung disease, weak bones, blood clots, and cataracts
  • Medicare beneficiaries can get a “Welcome to Medicare” physical in their first 6 months of Medicare
    Medicare would be well served if it provided even more coverage for preventive care.

Who says Medicare is shielded from competition? Anyone eligible for Medicare can choose to have other insurance instead of or in addition to Medicare. People with Medicare due to age or disability get free Part A automatically and can choose to take Part B or not. Only those with other insurance would choose not to take Part B because the premium is much lower than what it would cost for similar coverage in the private marketplace. Patients with ESRD can choose to waive Part B too if they have employer plans, but they need to be aware of when they can sign up, when it takes effect, and whether they’ll have a premium penalty when they do eventually sign up for Part B. I’ve seen patients burned by waiting when they thought their future was secure but their work situation changed. BTW, loss of employer group coverage does not make anyone with ESRD eligible to sign up for Part B outside the general enrollment period (January-March) and Medicare won’t take effect until July 1 after you enroll.

Original Medicare competes every day with Medicare Advantage (MA) plans that are run by private insurance companies but subsidized by the government to the tune of $15 billion a year in addition to member premiums and what the government pays for care provided to MA members. MA plans cost the government 14% more than Original Medicare. MA marketing is everywhere, some by illegal means and companies have been fined or had their Medicare contracts pulled. Seniors choose MA plans because they’re promised lower premiums and extra perks. However, the fear of privatizing Medicare has been borne out when MA plans deny coverage or resist paying claims. A timely news story about MA plans can be found here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090829/ap_on_bi_ge/us_medicare_advantage

Like commercial insurers, Medicare negotiates rates with doctors and other providers. However, instead of these contracts being done in secret, when Medicare plans to change its fees, CMS publishes a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking in the Federal Register with a public comment period. That gives special interest groups time to lobby hard to keep their sacred cows covered at the amount they believe is reasonable, reducing the potential for cost containment.

Surveys have shown that those getting “facts” from some media outlets are not well informed:
http://mediamatters.org/research/200908130044 (health reform)
http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions (general knowledge of current events)

I become frightened for the future of our country when I look at how much and what Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp controls – talk about dumbing down the American public, discouraging competition through acquisitions, and modifying the message to suit your motives/values/needs – really scary!
http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=newscorp

[QUOTE=Beth Witten MSW ACSW;18442]I cannot foresee a world where dialysis patients who have an illness that costs commercial insurers > $100,000 a year having “an easy time purchasing insurance.”

Where did you hear that men are forced by Medicare to pay for prostate exams? Here’s a list of Medicare’s preventive services. Unless otherwise noted, these are covered by Medicare at 80% if patients go to Medicare participating providers:

  • regular screenings for cardiovascular disease (cholesterol test paid at 100%)
  • diabetes screening
  • breast cancer screening (mammogram)
  • cervical and vaginal cancer screening (PAP)
  • colorectal cancer screening
  • prostate cancer (digital exam paid at 80%; PSA paid at 100%)
  • Hepatitis B, flu and pneumonia vaccines
  • screenings for bone mass/osteoporosis
  • diabetes equipment, self-management training and supplies
  • medical nutrition therapy (diabetes & CKD not on dialysis)
  • screening for glaucoma
  • smoking cessation programs for those with smoking-related diseases including heart disease, cerebrovascular disease/stroke, multiple cancers, lung disease, weak bones, blood clots, and cataracts
  • Medicare beneficiaries can get a “Welcome to Medicare” physical in their first 6 months of Medicare
    Medicare would be well served if it provided even more coverage for preventive care.

Who says Medicare is shielded from competition? Anyone eligible for Medicare can choose to have other insurance instead of or in addition to Medicare. People with Medicare due to age or disability get free Part A automatically and can choose to take Part B or not. Only those with other insurance would choose not to take Part B because the premium is much lower than what it would cost for similar coverage in the private marketplace. Patients with ESRD can choose to waive Part B too if they have employer plans, but they need to be aware of when they can sign up, when it takes effect, and whether they’ll have a premium penalty when they do eventually sign up for Part B. I’ve seen patients burned by waiting when they thought their future was secure but their work situation changed. BTW, loss of employer group coverage does not make anyone with ESRD eligible to sign up for Part B outside the general enrollment period (January-March) and Medicare won’t take effect until July 1 after you enroll.

Original Medicare competes every day with Medicare Advantage (MA) plans that are run by private insurance companies but subsidized by the government to the tune of $15 billion a year in addition to member premiums and what the government pays for care provided to MA members. MA plans cost the government 14% more than Original Medicare. MA marketing is everywhere, some by illegal means and companies have been fined or had their Medicare contracts pulled. Seniors choose MA plans because they’re promised lower premiums and extra perks. However, the fear of privatizing Medicare has been borne out when MA plans deny coverage or resist paying claims. A timely news story about MA plans can be found here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090829/ap_on_bi_ge/us_medicare_advantage

Like commercial insurers, Medicare negotiates rates with doctors and other providers. However, instead of these contracts being done in secret, when Medicare plans to change its fees, CMS publishes a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking in the Federal Register with a public comment period. That gives special interest groups time to lobby hard to keep their sacred cows covered at the amount they believe is reasonable, reducing the potential for cost containment.

Surveys have shown that those getting “facts” from some media outlets are not well informed:
http://mediamatters.org/research/200908130044 (health reform)
http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions (general knowledge of current events)

I become frightened for the future of our country when I look at how much and what Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp controls – talk about dumbing down the American public, discouraging competition through acquisitions, and modifying the message to suit your motives/values/needs – really scary!
http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=newscorp[/QUOTE]

First, when I meant insurance was shielded from competition, I was speaking of private insurers, not Medicare. Second, about the prostate exams, I was speaking of private insurers being forced to cover them thru government mandates and regulations. Honestly, not a fan of Rupert Murdoch. However, I think you have missed the incredible bias of the liberal media. There are very few conservative media outlets in the United States. If you look at the major networks, they are bleeding viewers. If you look at talk radio, liberal hosts are a flop, see Air America. The working people of this country are conservative, not liberal. In fact, even in Hawaii, conservatives outnumber liberals. Even in the public assistance department, if you would talk to the African-American caseworkers, they sound more like me than you.

In the real world, we see and live with the burden of excessive government regulation. When I hear about the failure of capitalism, l laugh. I have to say, your friends in the media lack basic research skills or they are just too lazy to dig deeper. In the previous adminstrations including President Reagan, at least 54,000 pages of regulation have been added to the Federal Registrar, each and every year.

If you believe that dialysis patients could not obtain insurance, how do you explain MM’s ability to obtain a price quote of $150.00 per month in another state? Private insurance is protected from competition and this why their prices are so outlandish, along with almost 2,000 mandates and regulation from the government.

I think it is about time that Congress followed our constitution and keep their nose out of 99.9 percent of the people’s business. How high do you believe prices would be at your local supermarket without competition or WAL-MART?

Even though I’m a proud liberal, I am one of the strongest advocates for personal responsibility so far as rehabilitation of people with kidney disease you’ll ever meet. I’ve consistently encouraged patients to keep their jobs and dialysis facilities to help patients work by accommodating working patients through offering home dialysis options and evening shifts and prioritizing shifts for working patients. Helping patients work would help them obtain affordable health insurance since insurance is often available through a job when it may not be available other ways.

At the same time I know I must be realistic and have accepted that treatment for kidney failure (dialysis and transplant) has not resulted in a state of health stable enough to allow all working age dialysis and transplant patients to work. Those patients whose health is not stable enough to work should be able to receive disability benefits if they’re eligible for them without being made to feel less worthy because they have to ask for help. The same is true of people who have to ask for help to obtain basic health care. I’ve taken calls from people who had good jobs and health insurance and believed they would be OK. All it took was failing kidneys, losing their job and health insurance as well as their stable income to learn just how uncertain life can be. The silver cloud for people with kidney failure is that the government chose to extend Medicare to cover this condition, but coverage doesn’t start until dialysis or transplant are needed and those with kidney damage who are uninsured or under-insured may not be able to afford treatment that would prolong their kidney function. Not making healthcare available to them is penny wise and pound foolish. However, as MM has pointed out, Medigap coverage may not be available or affordable. And the 20% left after Medicare pays may not be affordable either.

Very few conservative media? Did you look at the lengthy and varied types of media outlets that Rupert Murdoch owns? He’s not the only one who supports conservative causes, just one of the most visible because he owns so many media outlets. The conservative media would have smug Americans with health insurance blame those who don’t have it as irresponsible, demonizing them while downplaying the greed that insurance companies display when they refuse to accept people who are sick unless forced to take them and charge premiums that the average person can’t afford. How smug will those Americans be when they or a loved one loses their health insurance through no fault of their own? The conservative media know it’s easy to demonize those you don’t know personally and some people can’t seem to put themselves in another’s shoes until they’re wearing those shoes themselves.

Hmmm…who doesn’t research enough? The Pew survey that reported on viewers’/listeners’ knowledge of current events tells me that Americans would know more about current events if more of them watched Comedy Central’s The Daily Show/Colbert Report (54% with high knowledge, 25% with moderate knowledge, and 21% with low knowledge of current events) instead of watching Fox News (35% with high knowledge, 30% with moderate knowledge, and 35% with low knowledge of current events). Besides, I like to laugh more than watching people talk over or, worse yet, scream at each other.

I wouldn’t talk about Wal-Mart prices in the same sentence with competition. Yes, Wal-Mart has low prices, but at what cost? Wal-Mart has been criticized for running its competition out of business, for importing cheap goods from other countries while advertising “We buy American,” for putting profits before employees’ by limiting workers’ hours so most do not qualify for company health benefits and paying them so poorly they have to turn to government aid to support their families, for not paying workers for hours worked, for discriminating against women and minorities. Is Wal-Mart’s a business model you really want to support? Finally, what I believe gives Wal-Mart a huge black eye in the renal community is the case of Fiscus v. Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart terminated an employee with kidney failure after refusing to accommodate her disability and requiring her to take disability leave that lasted long enough to terminate her. This case established that ESRD is protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act as it significantly limits essential life functions which Wal-Mart’s lawyers tried to deny. Would you want this type of government interference (ADA, a federal law) to end so business rights can supersede the rights of the individual?

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National Health Control is Neither Moral Nor Ethical
by Aryeh Spero

President Obama is having difficulty convincing most Americans that national health control will improve their lives and now has turned to the clergy to persuade the American public that upending our present system is necessary to fulfill, as he says, "the religious obligation of helping others.” Recently, he held a conference call with a group of liberal Jewish rabbis and he suggested that they use their pulpits and sermons during the upcoming Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year, to convince their flocks that his national health control legislation constitutes the “moral and ethical thing to do.” The President went on to say: “I need your help,” and many that listened appear eager to turn their Houses of Worship into lobbying pulpits.

Aside from the blatant entanglement of religion and politics, the President is wrong in asserting that national and collective health control is a moral and ethical prescription. Everyone agrees that the President’s plan will cause a new rationing of health care. There’s also the danger that the President’s “comparative effectiveness research” will set cost-effectiveness standards to be used against Medicare enrollees to deny them life-extending new drugs or operations because it’s not “worth it.”

But the Bible, in Deuteronomy, explicitly states:” Therefore Choose Life," meaning that where life can be prolonged and the ways and means to do so are available, one should choose to live. While that person’s life may not be valuable to the collective scheme, it has its own integrity and value to family. For most Americans, the Biblical directive toward the individual supercedes what the bureaucrats will one day decide. People should be free to choose.

In Exodus, the Bible says: “And heal and continue to heal.” Healing should not be stopped when medicine is available and one is willing to pay for that healing. Nowhere does the Bible suggest that an individual should forego healing medical care simply because someone else doesn’t have the means or chooses not to do so. Rationing and enforced health-care ceilings would deny the individual from pursuing his healing.

Just as Biblical justice never asked that a person forfeit his rightful claim in a case simply because the other person needs the money more, it also does not ask that the individual relinquish his or a member of his family’s right to live or to be healed because a misguided “social justice” demands a system that denies the individual on the altar of the collective.

True, some no longer look to the Bible for what is moral and ethical, but the President is citing the Bible and trying to co-opt the clergy in the name of his health care plan.

The excellent and cutting-edge medicine and life enhancements that most Americans now pay for and receive would be sizeably cut so as to cover everyone and equalize the coverage. But helping others never requires that we forfeit that which we desperately need for ourselves nor does it want us to totally forfeit what is already ours. While the Bible, for example, asks the grower to leave the corners of his field to the poor, it doesn’t demand that the farmer give up his entire field to the poor and that he have no greater share than those collecting off him.

Many will end up paying in taxes far more than what they now pay and yet receive less just to underwrite those who don’t pay or choose not to pay. Even charity has a threshold, and certainly does not ask for self-denial. The Torah asks that we help others, but it tells us that a healthy and capable person is only helped when that person makes an equal effort to help himself. Not all who make claims fall into the category of the destitute.

There are specific solutions to every problem that has been posed regarding American health care if one simply would be willing to listen to them. However, the President and many of the liberal clergy are not seeking to solve specific problems but, instead, wish to create a “grand plan” whose purpose is to engineer society with paradigms that fit into their own pre-conceived utopian vision. This Euro-style plan verifies them, giving them bragging rights abroad that we, too, are a society of “social justice.” But national health control is neither just nor moral – it is socialism.

Truth be told, the President and many of the liberal clergy are moved and animated by socialism and collectivism. Their political outlook precedes their religion: liberalism comes first and is the lens through which morality and the Bible are interpreted. But socialism is a political category, not a moral category. Socialists have no monopoly on compassion and concern for the poor, just a history of failed remedies and policies.

All too often, liberal theologians disregard the virtue the Bible assigns to hard work, personal responsibility, the priority and obligation to one’s family and that one is entitled to enjoy the fruit of his labor. It is sinful to demand that people make sacrifices for those not even willing to undertake their own obligations. Such demands and sense of entitlement are a form of greed and robbery.

The Bible’s strength lies not in platitudes but in its particulars that liberals ignore. The President and the liberal clergy also wish to ignore many of those details, including the Biblical guidance to prolong life and pursue medicine and healing. For them, details are not as romantic and dramatic as utopian visions and that which “reshape the world.” The Old Testament understands societal obligations, but remains oriented to the individual and speaks to him.

More than anything this country has ever seen, President Obama’s nationalized health care is the complete abrogation of the individual for the sake of collectivism. It outlaws self-determination. Further, it would deprive the individual the right to that greatest embodiment of liberty: the freedom to choose to live and to be healed. Deuteronomy boldly announced: “Proclaim Liberty throughout the Land”. National health control would snuff out the land’s liberty and replace it with tyranny and coercion.

What separates the Judeo-Christian outlook from other religions, what makes it unique, is its belief in Freedom of Conscience. This blessing will be removed by the President’s plan since doctors will be forced to terminate life or withhold life-prolonging medicines and operations if they wish to keep their jobs as determined by a national board of health procedures. This is an arrogant plan, inhering power to an elitist few over the many. It is hubris on the part of our President, a very unreligious characteristic.

To this day, the plan is unclear and the President remains vague as to its specific contents. Rahm-care is being rammed and rushed through so that no one can fully be aware of what it really is. There is no transparency, which, itself, causes this whole sales pitch to be unethical. The Bible demands complete transparency when one wishes to sell an item to another or when one is advising another. Does it not say: “And ye shall not place a stumbling block in front of the blind man.” In other words, it is unethical to do anything that trips-up and hides information from those putting their trust in you.

In synagogue on Rosh Hashanah, we ask God: “Who shall live, who shall die?” Such determination should be left to God, not to goverment-run bureaucratic panels, or Rahm Emanuel.

My response on Friday.

Mark